Thank you Eva.
I think I need to step away for a bit and just observe the information on the forum rather than participate any more.
I think I have given rather a bit more information than I intended but hopefully it doesn't backfire.
Thanks again
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
Thank you Eva.
I think I need to step away for a bit and just observe the information on the forum rather than participate any more.
I think I have given rather a bit more information than I intended but hopefully it doesn't backfire.
Thanks again
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
I have confirmed who I am to at least 3 people privately and infact one of them scarily knows many people in my circuit.
With unhinged people like wingcommander around there is absolutely no way I will give away sensitive information publicly on this forum.
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
Wingcommander
It sounds like you had a really rough deal and have been hurt really badly by the JW's I imagine you were shaking really badly when you were typing that.
I hope you have somebody to talk to or are getting therapy for all that hatred.
I read your story in your profile. It seems that after all this time you are still not over it.
I was born into the witnesses and knew nothing else. Did you voluntarily get involved with them as an adult?
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
Markofcane
Thanks. You are right.
I hope that your journey ends well and you manage to escape relatively sane lol
It's a tough journey.
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
I'm totally with Nathan Natas and Sparrow on this one: I'm floored that such a man-child as this was actually an appointed ELDER, out over other grown adults!
This is a fine example of what cult indoctrination and upbringing produces: A 28-yr old virgin who still lives in his parents basement and does janitorial work. Scrub toilets as a nobody by day, then at night throw on a cheap JC Penny suit and go Lord it over others as a some spiritual "Prince." Classic, just classic!
Why don't you go beg your WT Governing Body to help you out? After all, "Jehovah provides", as I'm sure you've told others as an Elder, right? They are your loving spiritual "family", so go forth, be warm and well fed and remember, even Jesus and the Apostle Paul didn't have a pillow to rest their heads!
So at this point I am in no mans land.
I am shunned by the organisation I am leaving.
Then I come hear to announce that I am leaving and get messages like yours.
I have held my hands up several times to apologise for my whiney over dramatic post and for the way I introduced myself to the forum. I deserved all the comments I received. I accept that.
What you have said has already been said. We have all moved on from my original post. Your post and bitterness was completely unnecessary and uncalled for.
People like you are reason i am so hesitant about revealing more information. I have no idea where your spite and nastiness would take things.
I have received messages from people who say that members like you spoil the forum for everybody else and you put people off trying to break free from the witnesses and seeking help from fellow ex JW's who have been through the same thing.
I honestly could not care less about your opinion of me but after what I have been through over the past few months I won't be put off by people like you and you ugly spitefulness.
I might not be in a good place but I am so glad that I haven't turned out as nasty as you.
just looking for some of your views / advice:i am divorced and am together with my dear boy every second weekend for 2.5 days.
he is now 3 years old and heavily indoctrinated by his mum and grandmother.today he told me: "daddy, jehovah is high up in heaven.
we can't see him, but he is there.
You don't want to mess with his little mind any more by confusing him at this stage.
As you still believe in a loving God, you can agree that he is up in heaven or wherever you think he is and just omit the name Jehovah.
You could explain to him that many people believe in God but choose to call him by other names.
You sound like a loving dad, not wanting to impose your believes on him or wanting to make it hard for him.
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
Hi Acts5v29
I am currently working my way through my PM's so will reply to you as soon as I can. Thank you so much :)
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
S&L, after yesterdays bit of a giggle, and reinforced by Cofty and Besty I am a 100% bona fide exjw involved in my own bit of activism and who would 100% respect anyone confidentiality here or anywhere, so anyone here revealing anything of a sensitive nature could be rest assured that it would not go any further, the reason I ask I do have a contact in the cleaning business who pays £8/hr in the London area the only issue is the need for an CSCS health and safety certificateThank you very much. A number of people have confirmed that you are one of the nice guys.
In hindsight, my stupid over dramatic first few posts deserved the abuse I got on the forum. I was an idiot and have come across so wrong. It has been a really stressful few months and I honestly think I have had a bit of a melt down.
This forum is helping me to put things into perspective and my future is looking a lot brighter.
That is a really kind offer and I am genuinely very grateful. I am outside of the London area (a lot further up the M1) and couldn't afford to move to London but I appreciate the gesture very much.
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
Besty ..."don't bother revealing anything else that could identify you. there are people here in the UK who have been DF'd based on what they have posted."
Thanks for the advice. That is what I am afraid of. Thank you so much for your kind words and taking the time to post, It is appreciated very much. :)
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
Jookbeard: S&L if you dont mind me asking what part of the UK are you from, and could you PM me the name of your cong and some of the names of the elders from your congregation?
Jookbeard, with all due respect, after what you did to me yesterday, I would never reveal anything to you. There was no need for you to mock me the way you did. I didn't deserve that, especially as you could see how sorry I was.
I am reluctant to reveal even my circuit, never mind the congregation or the elders. Outside of London, it is so easy to put the pieces together and I can't risk that at the moment. I know most of the people in my district because of one of the positions I held at the convention and a lot of them are aware of my situation and demise.
Most people on this forum have been so friendly and given great advice, but there is an element of people that I would not trust with such information.